If I have a number of sites that i always want to be group. I would like to have the possibility to save the group. So that I can later on recreate the group.
This is an extension to open in tabs for bookmarks.
Stu L Tissimus commented
How about an "Open Bookmarks Folder as Tab Group"? When I have a few tabs that I'm probably not gonna look at for a month I save the window as a Bookmark Folder.
GOSH YES! If TabCandy can't do this it's ruins the UX for a lot of users. Example: I do my presentations as a bunch of HTML links in a page and a text editor. One morning before a presentation I spend 45mins making a TabCandy collection I could use to present with... unfortunately my Fx4Beta crashed right before the presentation, somehow I lost my Candy and I had to totally wing it. Saving also makes sharing more fun, and allows me to set up different workflows for different work environments etc.
See my comments on "Visual Bookmarks"/"Temporary Bookmarks" at:
Can it support groups within groups? If so I'd love to toss the static nature of Fav's so I can get the heads up display of TabCandy. Either way I'm going to love it, but the HUD of TabCandy rulz over the static fav list.
Saving/restoring should be as transparent to the user as possible. Advanced features may added later, but I think this would be a perfect standard workflow:
- by hovering over a group/single tab, a "suspend" button pops up. By pressing this button, the tab/tab-group is stored (ideally including session data) and removed from memory.
- by suspending a tab-group, TabCandy uses a color cue (grayed out overlay for example) to display that a group is not active and but has to be reloaded (and that the preview image may be quite old)
- by opening a tab from a suspended tab group, the opend tab and (with less priority) the other tabs ins the group are activated and loaded into memory again.
- To accelerate browser-startup, it should be possible to switch groups between "load on startup" and "suspend on startup". A similar feature could be a "auto-suspend tabs"-feature which would auto-suspend tabs which aren't used recently. Again all suspended tabs are displayed slightly grayed out to communicate the suspension to the user.
Besides the ability to save groups of tabs I think that it would be nice if it could have a way to save up some RAM memory by doing that. I tried to think about some ways to do that, maybe if you save a group it makes a offline save and make the group and the tabs inactive so they don't consume memory. I'm saying that because the major reason for the existence of tabcandy is to be a nice UI for those, like me, that uses a lot of tabs and the problem with that is that a lot of tabs use a lot of memory. Before tabcandy I was using a lot of windows and even separating things in differents browsers. The group could maintain the thumbnails and if not offline, maybe save the list in the cloud, I don't know, but I know that it exists a way to do that and I hope it materializes somehow. Thanks.
Aza, I think this is a crucial feature to any complete solution for re-vamping the "tab ideology."
There are three separate sub-features that people seem to be converging on:
1. Suspend/Hibernate - a function similar to Tab Group Manager's "Suspend/Hibernate Group" function, where if the user knows they will not be using a tab group for a while, they can simply "save it for later" to get it out of sight/mind and also to free up system resources. It could be called up at a later point in time exactly as it was when it was suspended. This would also be similar to the functionality of Bar Tab.
2. Speed Dial - A "static group" of sites/tabs that can be called up at will, that represent some frequently-performed action or group of tasks. For instance, the user could save their top 10 news sites in a group and call it up at any time to check the latest news, then kill it off when they are done reading. This can be though of as a similar idea to "app tabs," but collected in a group.
3. Persistence through sessions - This is absolutely critical, groups must be preserved throughout different browsing sessions for later use (and possibly even a way to manually back them up). This is aligned with the paradigm of tabs as "temporary bookmarks" -- pages you will come back to, but without the cumbersome process of saving, recalling, and eventually deleting that is inherent with the classic bookmark model.
If these features are implemented, you could make obsolete the massive array of tab management extensions that are required for a decent workflow at the moment, all in one fell swoop. This includes: Bar Tab (essential for power users), TabGroup Manager (also indispensable for anyone with more than 20 or so tabs open, but unfortunately development has halted due to the author's illness), Speed Dial (very popular and more elegant/manageable than "app tabs" for power users), and session management.
These concepts are all interlinked and must each be addressed to deal with the concept of *real* tab management for those of us who live and work on the web.
Scott Fink commented
I'm a FF convert after I found I could make FF work better than Maxthon through addons. Two addons I can't live without is TabGroup Manager and Xmarks. If you can implemement all the features of those two addons (caching groups to hard drive, bookmarking groups and syncing them between browsers) along with the slick gui and added features, I'll definately be using TabCandy. I love the idea of being able to have a shared tab group with friends. Can't wait to check it out!
Lawrence De Larvin commented
If it could be, allow to save the entire group for offline browsing purposes will be even great!..
FF/Chrome Waffler :D commented
Save between restarts ->echo fredrik. Save the closed tabs in a cache for quick switching during a session, but not in memory. Clear the cache when session ends, but save the group without a prompt when closed for easy access on the next session. Leave a cache option in the about:config, or maybe in 'options' for people with enough space that they don't mind the cache sticking around between sessions.
Also: make the new tabs opened display the full tabgroup screen, an extra button is unnecessary.
Why not making the tab groups like a homepage. It'd be nice if the groups weren't just saved, but they were saved on specific webpages that you designated, not just the last webpages you went to. For example, if I want ESPN.com in one of my tab groups, I would like to be able to see the baseball or football scores and then when I'm done go to another group. Then, if I wish to go back to ESPN.com, I'd prefer it go back to the ESPN homepage, not the baseball or football scores that I last saw.Then it would be kind of like your online desktop. You have all your tabs saved and organized and can really make use of spatial recognition and memory. (This is sort of like an analog to Safari's "Top Sites" feature)
agree notes would be very nice :)
Being able to save groups, reopen and add/delete tabs from them would be a very worth while feature. Not sure if this has been mentioned on another thread but, how about being able to make notes/rate each tab. That would be useful when doing research.
Maybe adding "open in group" in context menu for folders in bookmark, be nice and "save group as folder in bookmark" in group context menu.
I would call this Key Tabs. From my post: Make Key.
"Right click: Make Key. Ability to "recycle" the key tabs like networking utilities through all groups whenever switching from one activity group to the next."
rocket scientist commented
Really cool. I want to see TabCandy with saved group in Firefox 4! Great Work! Great Idea.
In addition to being able to save a group, close it, and summon the group back whenever you need it again I'd like to see a session-wide save state feature. I have a bad habit of closing windows in OS X instead of hiding them after I finished using it, though I know I will need it again shortly. It would be nice to have a session-wide save state where all your hard work to organize everything remained present even after closing the entire firefox window and opening it again.
option + command click on a link in a browser window to choose a tab group to place the new tab in, incase you find something that should go into another tab group.
This is a great idea guys, especially the ability to share tab groups, i think that has so much potential.
Joshua Jarman commented
I agree, a way to save the groups and browse and reload saved groups so you could store groups for later bookmark style. This would also allow you to close groups, saving memory, and reopen them when needed, hours or days later. Tabs wouldn't "reload" into memory until active, Bar Tab addon style. That would make this a showstopper, the killer app for browser tabs.
This is a great suggestion. I really like the idea of saving older sessions as groups that can be seen alongside the current session of groups.